Did the NHS lose its way?

Lazzzydog

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I was watching the news about the Nightingale Hospital being rapidly converted from the exhibition centre in London and I was amazed to see a fleet of ambulances sitting idle on the car park. I assume that the crews were helping with the conversion works. I cannot help but wonder what they would have been doing in more normal times, and if it isn’t necessary now why was it then? Nearly all routine procedures have been ceased until further notice which I totally understand, but why in mortal times is the NHS expected to operate what is basically a free taxi service for non emergency patients using very expensive vehicles manned by two highly trained para-medics? Why are we expected to fund non essential plastic surgery for vanity reasons. Why are pregnant woman from abroad allowed to fly here in the late stages of pregnancy to take advantage of our NHS service and get a dual nationality passport for their child without paying a penny into the system.
Amazing how all these drains on our NHS can be stopped at the drop of a hat when there is the political will to do it but come the end of the crisis our elected representatives in the commons will probably sink back into their usual state of ineffectiveness.
I could rant on about how cheap words are and how the promises of financial help for all the affected are now melting away in the reality of huge queues of skint zero hour workers applying for universal credit and the self employed on more than £50k a year getting no help but a paye employee on £100k a year can claim £2.5k per month.
I could sit in wonder at a government that praises the NHS at every press conference but continues to expect them to work with insufficient ppe and fails to test them for the virus, only conducting around 9,000 tests a day while Germany can manage 500,000 a week.
All the horrendous numbers of deaths around the globe would have much more meaning to me if we were given comparables to set them against. What were the number of deaths during the winter months in the UK over the last 5 years, especially among the elderly and more vulnerable groups? The figures are out there and easily found. I have done so and they make for interesting and eye opening reading, especially year 2014/2015. Sorry for rambling on but I think cabin fever is taking hold.
Goodness knows when this madness will be concluded but I look forward to seeing you all out and about in happier times, tops down and cruising.
Tony.
 

Paul Rice

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Just one point Tony. the ambulances are mainly new stock, easy to prolong the off fleeting of the original vehicle and temporary re route the new ones to this new site. Perhaps the volunteers will be operating the new vehicles or the originals.
 

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Always good to have a rant Tony, but hindsight is a wonderful thing. People and governments tend to prioritise as they see fit and don't see things like this coming. It's not like this country was less well prepared than any other.What I do know is that I'm glad I'm in the UK where we have the NHS. I wouldn't want to be in the USA.Several other countries in Europe have very good health services too, but I think the death toll in many countries around the world will be far greater than what we have seen so far.Riots in parts of Africa on tv this morning as well as mobs trying to cram onto trains in India.
 

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It could be that being an island does have its benefits.
I imagine the forensic medical experts will be analysing how this virus thing is spreading and whether natural barriers (North Sea) have come into play.
 

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None of those volunteers will be anywhere near a patient until they've been vetted.

Over a dozen in my place have self isolated with various symptoms and are back working. None were tested, so don't know if they actually had it and are now immune. Will we be tested? No official clue.

All our nurses have been face fit tested, whether we have enough masks for them all is not a question I actually want to ask. Since another staff member was delighted to get 2 boxes of 10 from our dept for stock.

We're actually downloading files for face shields from thingverse, to see if we can 3d print them and use A4 acetate sheets as shields.

All opinions are my own, they are not in any way official. I make no claims whatsoever to their accuracy or, veracity.
 

Lazzzydog

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The NHS has served me extremely well twice so far in my life in what were life threatening circumstances and I hope my post is not seen as a criticism of the staff or their service but I really hope that once the current situation has returned to normal it does not return to being overworked and underfunded once again. It should be a safety net paid for by all and used by all who have paid in for treatment essential to good health.
I take your point about hindsight Ken and I agree none of us were prepared for what has just hit us, but I am sick of hearing from politicians singing the praises of the NHS and constantly telling me this and that is being “ramped up” whist the reality from those on the front line is that there is actually no improvement in supplies nor testing. Are they allergic to telling us the truth or do they think we cannot handle it.
 

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I have lived on both sides of the pond and am much happier to be over here now. My parents have good medical care in the States but I wouldn't want it to be something I was worrying about.

Unfortunately they are getting what they can out to the people as soon as they can. The NHS does not has a warehouses of supplies just in case so things are going to be short. The only stock piles are guns and bullets for the military. I wonder how the new aircraft carriers will help with this situation?

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